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The Great Cover Up..



One does have to wonder what the mindset is when a married woman would have an affair for whatever reason, get herself pregnant and just continues as usual knowing full well that the child was fathered by someone else. That constant reminder of that fling would be in that child's every movement and action, it's facial construction, even eye colour, speech, everything this child did would be a constant reminder. Yet women make the claim of being the self appointed arbitrators of public conscience, the feminist fake high horse claim(women should never be held accountable). An act demonstrated by their endless harping and scolding about issues they consider to be a negative representation on how things should be, it always appears to benefit them though. The tea totalers from the early 1930s come to mind as does the copious and unlimited organisation on the web today..

A great example of this attitude has been demonstrated clearly by Sotomayor..

Judging Sotomayor by Mike Adams..

Sotomayer is of the opinion that she is a higher level of being because it is a female and a "non-white". The ego here just does not get any bigger than this..

We have copious examples about the opposite sex, in the course of writing this blog, necessitated that I study, probe and expose the behavioral patterns and thinking processes of the opposite sex, which I have always stated was a pursuit that I wish I had never started or undertaken, as the more I uncovered, the worse it gets. It was the original intention of this blog to demonstrate to that same sex what it was like for man and boy to be abused on a constant daily basis for just being male as feminists and general society have now adopted as normal thatnks to feminist collusion and instigation..
In that pursuit of knowledge about the opposite sex, there is one major character flaw that they demand to be excluded, which they undertake and promote either maliciously, knowingly and specifically and that is that their actions should never be held up for inspection or explanation but always easily justified because they are who they are. Feminists having realised that this character flaw was prominent in the majority women, they demanded that they should never be held accountable for any of their actions at all. Feminists went so far as to ensure that to being the case by changing jurisprudence of every law that could somehow excuse that current reality. They have ensured that women are given a free ride, wherever possible and continue to this day to achieve that goal and aim. We have already witnessed that to be the case on a daily basis as women are never given the same punishment as men and it can be perceived it is for just that reason..

It has become an obvious fact that women require the same training in knowing the difference between right and wrong, good and evil, just like everyone else and that they are not the arbitrators they make claim to be. They often behave as if they have zero conscience concerning any of their decisions, which in turn may call into question their justification or stance. This is the same topic covered by Joanna and I in regards to "what women want" as well as "What women offer". It is sadly the case that showing the worst that human beings are capable of is definitely a much more emotive argument and feminists have refined that; then showing how most people life in harmony and trust. It comes back to that wallowing in the pigpen with the charlatans, harridans and toxic beings that will change one's purview of the opposite or both sexes. An act and aim that feminists and feminism has concentrated on in their false pursuit of non-existent equality..

When listening to this video below, you will hear how a woman, split up for a month with her husband, had a fling, got pregnant and reunited with her husband even though she did not want to, just because she knew that he had the better income and could SUPPORT HER better than the guy who made her pregnant. The confession by this woman demonstrates my case clearly and entirely. No consideration is made whatsoever about the affect this would have on the husband, nothing matters more than HER living standards and ensuring HER lifestyle does not change. There is no visible level of regret, of conscience or living the lie. She even states that when approached by her husband about the child that she responded in a fake and forced reaction that was designed and ensured the topic was never broached again..
How dare he suggest that the child may possibly not be his, the damn cheek, the bastard..


WoManifesto: What Women Can Offer Men Pt 2..




What women can offermen
Guest Author -
Joanna T.
Suisse.
It’sbeen a while now since Christian J and I embarked on creating a‘WoManifesto’ to mark­ this new year, 2012.­
Heasked me to write a post on ‘what women can offer men’ as afollow on to ‘what women want’.
Ofcourse, one might be dismayed at the thought of doing it this wayround.
But Iexplained the reasons for doing it like we have in the previous postin this series.

Beforethis version, I had a nice draft of ‘what women can offer men’all typed up and shiny. All ready and good to go. All nicely wrappedup to be delivered to Christian.

Untilthat is, I came across this comment from a man talking about hisexperiences with a woman:
"Ihave a gift for picking up the snakes when I reach into theapple-barrel."

Now mynice draft is all (figuratively) torn up and has taken up permanentresidence in the (computer) bin.

It hitme that there is a certain sentiment, certainly in the Manosphere,perhaps also out there in blue pill world, among men, that if at allthere are apples in the barrel, they are certainly not getting theirhands on any. They keep getting the snakes.

It isone thing to ask, ‘where are all the good women?’.
It isquite another to say, ‘why do I keep getting snakes when all Iwant is a friggin apple.’


Now, Idon’t buy for one minute that this man’s experience is universal.It’s just not possible from a statistical point of view.

So, weknow there are snakes in the proverbial apple barrel. So that’s oldnews.
Butthere are also apples. Some are good apples, some are rotten apples.

Anotherman said this on a popular Manosphere blog:
‘Mendon’t need marriage. It is society’s and women’s job to sellmarriage to men.’

I hadheard that before. From another man, as it turns out.
I havenever met nor will meet any of these three men. But they havecontributed to my education about men.
Sohere I am doing their bidding. I am going to show you what a goodapple, as opposed to a snake, will offer you. And in so doing, I amselling marriage to you. Because although you don’t need it, thereis at least a small chance you might want it. Statistically speaking.

Whatcan a woman offer a man?

Quitesimply, what he doesn’t already have.
Herfemininity.
Simpleas that.

Exceptit is not so simple.
Becauseas you all know, women are complex, and therefore so is femininity.

Similarto what I like to call ‘outer Game’ (for example peacocking,negging, escalation), and ‘inner Game (stoicism, actions thatexhibit outcome independence, true character), femininity can bedivided into ‘outer’ and ‘inner’ versions.
Likethe PUA who gets all the girls with his ‘outer Game’, a woman’souter femininity certainly makes her visible to you. It’s greatbecause you are wired to respond to this. It brightens your day tosee a feminine woman.
Goodfor you.

Butthere is something else that is present in a good apple. If you arelucky enough that she is a ‘mature’ woman (nothing to do withage) and she has chosen you as her ‘king’ she should easily bringcolour to your ‘black and white’ life.
Shehas the ability to bring you what you will not get anywhere else:real womanly love.
Youwon’t get this from your male friends, of course, nor your brotheror father. They love you, sure but not the way we are talking abouthere. You won’t even get this from your female relatives, not yourmother or your sisters, and certainly not from all the women who haveLJBF’ed you.

Thisis a woman who will not see you down without getting down herself.Who will accept you for who you are, warts and all. She may notunderstand you fully, but she doesn’t have to, because she caresenough to make excuses for your failings. Her ‘rationalisationhamster’ works in your favour in this case! (There has to be asilver lining somewhere...)
Thisis a woman who not only wants to see you succeed, she doesn’t mindplaying second fiddle to you in the process.
Butthis is a woman who is also mature. So she chose right. Therefore youwill not feel tempted to take full advantage of what might be seen asher ‘weakness’ for you.
Becauseto get this good apple, she demands it of you to be one yourself.
That’swhat a (good) woman can offer you. Her good self, whilst at the sametime compelling you to be a better man.

A goodapple knows her own worth, without being over-entitled. She knowsthat it is better to ‘reject’ a man who is unsuitable for herthan plough ahead into a liaison with him for all the wrong reasonsand waste his time and hers. And worse, ruin his life and hers. Butshe does the rejection graciously.

A goodapple will let you know she is interested in you without yielding toyour will straightaway. She will again do this graciously. You shouldfeel there is ‘hope’ but you won’t get ‘instantgratification’.

A goodapple will demonstrate to you that she has the required skills thatare compatible with femininity in her dealings with you. She willdemonstrate her nurturing nature to you without trying to. Because itwill come naturally to her when she is with you.

Shemay not be demonstrative necessarily, but she will most likely bemore emotional than you, and more ready to show it.
Shewill most likely blow her fuse at you more times than you would like,but there will always be a cooling off period after which she will beall sweetness and light again.

Asopposed to a snake who wants you dead if she is not happy with youone time.

A goodapple is sincere with you. She will be honest with you, albeitmysterious in a way that actually adds to her allure. But she isnever deceitful nor manipulative.
Self-centrednessis never part of her way of life. But she will believe it is part ofyours 

She issomeone who respects herself, so she will never have any troublerespecting you. She may worship the ground you walk on, but she willcall you out if you do something she does not find to her liking. Butshe won’t do this in public or in a way that demeans you.
Becauseshe understands that disrespect is your greatest peeve.

Sheunderstands your need for ‘alone time’ and won’t stop talkingwhen you come out of your cave to make up for lost time 
Sheknows you are a hard worker, and is grateful for the life you providefor her.
Shewon’t try to compete with you because she knows that iscounterproductive and discordant.
Becauseshe wants harmony in the home. She thrives on her role as ‘peopleconnector’.

Shewill play the victim, but will admire you for never doing the samething.
Shewill look up to you and will be your biggest fan.
Evenif sometimes you really do not merit her support.
Butthat brings us back to her ‘hamster’.
Shewill moan about how you are such hard work. But she likes you justthe way you are.
Becauseshe got to know you well, and despite all your flaws she chose you.

A goodapple will make your life better than if you were on your own.
ButYOU will be the best judge of that.

 From the Flip Side..
Christian J. 
A reaction or response, depends..
I have been waiting to the next installment and looking forward to responding. That was right up until I actually read it..
What I was going to do was hurl the usual epithets, as has been the practice over the last few years, whenever I read the word "Woman". It's not that often that one single word invokes that much passion, but over the last couple of decades that overused label has been done to death as it usually came with it, the standard angst wringing cliches that we have come to expect. It brings back those "We need to talk" sms text messages one receives and you know immediately that the future is not looking too good and there is obviously something gravely wrong and guess who is going to get the lecture. As that "we need to talk" is never about anything positive, never ever, as most would already be well aware of. It's usually about something you have not done rather than something you could do. It is always laced with the equivalent angst level one expects when one learns that the Earth is about to come to an end or akin to receiving a tax bill from that department who sole responsibility is to instill misery, fear and suffering. You know, that kind of feeling..

That was what I expected, the usual demand list where numbers 1-100 consisted of what you had to do and zero indication of what she did.
That was right up until I read this expectant missive, this declaration, this unarguable list of salient facts that one prefers to forget as we spend way too much time with the Harridans, the toxic Snakes and Rotten Apples.
We honestly do forget how affected we are by the opposite sex and there is just no reasonable explanation that I am aware of that could deny that fact. Those who have been taken for a ride or done over, do have legitimate grievances and one has to battle through those issues. Which with hindsight, would still be vivid and raw, that any mention of the possibility of there being any reasonable females left out there must be someone's fantasy, as reality has taught them different. Especially where the manophere is concerned. Twice bitten etc..

But out there they are, not in massive doses, as we have seen and learnt, but a sufficient amount to ensure that if one follows their instincts and approached it with their eyes open, you will eventually track one down. To be honest, Jo's summary can be applied very nicely to my own partner without any fear of contradiction or delusion on my part. I know that some would be reeling back and saying "Yea right" as the above female is just too good to be true. How could one possibly exist except maybe in someone's dream. Well, I really do not know how else I can or could demonstrate that apart from the fact that I was not even aware of it myself, until now..

Joanna T : A WoManifesto..



A WoManifesto – Newyear’s resolution: Part 1:
What women want
Guest Author - Joanna T.
Suisse.

I am at a huge disadvantage. I accepted a challenge for which I am ill-prepared.
Men NEVER listen to women about relationships. According to the grand dukes of the manosphere, they shouldn’t.
I agree.
But what if I told you I was a Red Pill woman? OK, not helping. 
What if I told you that this post was commissioned by a man who specifically wanted a sympathetic woman’s point of view?
I feel a slight shift in resistance.
What if this post was heavily edited by this man to make sure any male-bashing nonsense was excluded?
Ah, now I have an audience.
Good.

I like men. Just because. 
I am a woman. Given that I am not into self-hatred, I also like women. Especially those who like men.
So without further ado, allow me to proceed.
This post and the rest which follow in this series address the problem with no name. That which has seen a gulf the size of a small planet develop between the sexes.
Christian J had the brilliant idea to collaborate in an effort to address the issue in a hopefully lighthearted manner and see where that leads.

I have another problem.
I am doing this all wrong.
The first post should be one about ‘What women can offer men’.
I know. I know. Women these days are all about what they want, rather than what they should give.
I promise you, there is a good reason I am doing it this way.
In any war negotiation I imagine (now, it must be said: I have never been a negotiator for say, the UN, so my speculation is purely that - speculation) that the most efficient way forward is to allow each party a chance to be heard first. Once the cards are on the table, demands on each party can then proceed. This may not guarantee that everyone is happy in the end, but I believe it is a good start.

Christian J will be posting a similar article on what men want from women.
I guarantee you something. His list will be longer than mine.

Let me preface this by letting you in on a little secret:
Most women really need to have a (good) relationship. That is her raison d’ètre.
Relationships are a woman’s domain (link to let the woman chase you).
The feminists will shoot me for this, but it is true.
This means that most women are prepared to work hard to keep a man.
So, with respect to relationships, you are already onto a winning streak if you were born male.
But you already knew that. It is no secret.
All women want from a man is...
That he ignores her bad behaviour and rewards the good.

That’s it.
So, guys, you are already doing it right if you have Game.
The biggest complaint women have about men is that whatever they do, it is not enough.
Some women really try hard for their man. Let’s call these women the ‘nice girls’.
They are the feminine women, the ones who actually like men. The ones men say they want.
These women get passed over for the ‘bitch’.
These ‘nice women’ finish last.
Most of these women remain nice. Some start to change, to turn into the bitch.
When a woman with a low ‘number’ realises that the slut is getting all the male attention, she wonders if she is doing it wrong.

When a woman who cooks for her boyfriend and encourages him to spend time with his friends watching the game on Sunday afternoons is passed over for the drama queen who has ‘issues’ with time apart from her man, the first woman will (mistakenly, of course) not repeat her ‘niceness in her next relationship. It is simple Pavlovian conditioning.
Nice girls finish last.
One way to solve today’s SMP problems is for men to do their best to nullify this idiom.
Nice guys finish last was a good propeller for you to learn Game. It was appropriate for you. 
This is one example of where men and women’s differences should be celebrated (link to Male and female He created them). When a woman is not nice, she is not being feminine.

Masculine men want feminine women.
Encourage the feminine.
Discourage the bitchiness.
That is, if you really want to find and keep a good woman.
Most women are good women. Despite feminism.

A small minority are too entrenched in feminist ideation to be reached by common sense and goodwill. Avoid this woman. She is easy to spot. Many men in the manosphere have already had the misfortune of her acquaintance.

Unfortunately, the unintended consequences of this encounter has been the birth of the axiom ‘AWALT’ (All Women Are Like That).
The problem is, it does not really matter whether you are right or wrong.
The serious problem here is that this becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Here’s the sequence of events:
Man encounters the ‘not so nice’ woman who wreaks havoc on him by the time she has finished with him.
Man learns Game as he gets older.
Man becomes proficient PUA who preys on the younger generation of women.
He is ‘successful’ with numerous of these, in a casual sense.
As these younger women mature, they turn into their older counterparts. Rinse and repeat.
I get it. Youth=beauty=fertility=what men want.
I respect Game. But only when it is used honourably. One of the laws of physics is that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. 
In other words you reap what you sow.

If you indiscriminately take advantage of the younger generation, you will breed horrible older women.
The sad thing about the women of the younger generation (Generation Y) is that they are unbelievably immature. This is a trend that began with Generation X. 
In previous generations, girls matured faster than boys. That was Nature’s way to ensure that a woman’s maturity coincided with her peak fertility.
The unintended consequences of feminism (which has had a greater direct effect on women than men) is that this is no longer necessarily true.

An older man pursuing a young girl for marriage would in previous generations have had no trouble. It is after-all in accordance with Nature. The problem nowadays is that the young girl is too immature for marriage. Most young women are not marriage-minded until well after their twenties, thanks to feminism. In addition, the very young woman has an understandable natural aversion to the much older man. Parents are more upset if their daughter is cavorting with a much older man than a boy her age. There is a reason for that.

Even in primitive societies where very young women were forced into marriage with older men, it was rare that this young woman was anything other than a reluctant bride.
Generation Y women are the same, even more so. They are ‘creeped out’ by the much older man even if he is this man (link to ‘The curious case...). The more adventurous ones (perhaps even more immature than their peers) would engage in casual encounters with these men if they are Gamed hard enough. But it does not end well, of course.
Rinse and repeat.

In conclusion, one way to solve the riddle of today’s SMP is this:
Game with good intentions. Reward good behaviour, ignore the bad.
That’s it.


Christian J. Response from the Dark Side..
What Women Want..

To be honest, when I first read Joanna's article, it had an immediate response. It was one of incredulity. How is it possible that men and women want the same thing and how come we are both complaining about the exact same issues. They actually see themselves as being the odd one out. This cannot be right, a woman can get just about any male, at any time. It is the case that women are making life as difficult as possible for us. It is them, who make all the demands and it's them who make all the decision about "the relationship" and it's them who toss us aside whenever they have an inkling that the grass is greener somewhere else, rip our hearts out, shred it, return in a plastic bag with the FU tag attached..

That is precisely what we have been told, witnessed and feasted on for years..

The incredulity remained as I remember the copious amount forums and articles I have read and commented on where those exact same issues were raised by guys. Each and everyone of those issues were mentioned, pointed out and complained about; these are the exact same claims that Joanna states, that affect women at large. It just doesn't make sense..

The epiphany appeared once the thought processes kicked into gear..

It definitely is the case that we were attracted by that "slut", that "look at me I am so sexy" individual who was showing the goods and demanding acceptance. The same ones who were forward and not shy, made the conversation and the first moves. The same girls who were less of an effort to get to know and willing to hand over the goods instead of it being akin to some “aircraft without a pilot talk-down” episode. The same one who made the game easier to play. But the same who would just disappear and leave you wondering what the hell you just did wrong.. 

Joanna on the other is quite right about guys putting up with women's bad behaviour, I have witnessed that and so have you. Those loads of obnoxious harridans whose standard behavioural patterns demonstrates that they are out of control and someone needs to straighten them out at all costs. It almost appears to be the case where that type of behavior is now the preferred standard. I cannot understand why but apparently it is evident in the majority of women in the western world. They have been educated to behave in that fashion and passed it off as being a "strong" woman, when in reality all she demonstrates is an obnoxious level that only it's cat would gladly ignore..

The other side of the coin is ofcourse the introduced legislation that protect women to such a degree that one is hesitant, probably too shit scared to criticise any female in the fear of being falsely accused or abused, either physically or verbally. The rest of the audience would gladly join in as well because again, it's their mindset. Excusing bad female behavior is norm and any attempt to correct it will be punished..

So what do men want in a female?

It is a simple question and I am no expert but the answer appears to be quite simple as well. It's a relationship with mutual benefits..

Think back to when you were in your early teens and you were physically affected by a member of the opposite sex (you stared, your heart raced, you had no control over it, it was embarrassing when someone pointed that out and even then your were a complete goose in that person's company) and you could not work out why, how scary was that, it still happens. That first encounter has made everyone wary ever since. How can one single individual affect you in such an overwhelming fashion, you can still remember it now regardless of age. How is that possible when you have met, spoken to and been involved with thousands of other people. 

One of life's greater mysteries..

We like the idea of a female partner sharing situations that arise. One comes to mind and that is the party situation where you are talking to friends and your partner walks up behind you and slips her hand in yours without saying anything or demanding the front seat. The joy of introducing your squeeze to your friends without ceremony and her acceptance of them is rare, but should be just normal. Afterwards just walking away and leaving you to it (many times in the past I have witnessed wives and girlfriends wander on the scene, had a listen and wander off, fine)..

We enjoy the occasional impromptu squeeze almost anywhere accept when we are talking to someone and your partner walks up and kisses you in front of everyone else, like your a tree stump and she is just marking territory..

We like it when major issues can be dealt with in an unhysterical fashion, calmly work out the problem and create a positive outcome. In the majority of cases, that would be the logical step to take. We greatly dislike it when a minor issue requires the rest of the day to rectify, when initially the one single step to fix it was ignored..

We generally like peace and quite whenever possible. Prefer to be told what the problem is, instead of having to guess.  If we are told that “it's nothing”, then as far as we are concerned, that will be the case. I think the majority of males hate it when asking "what's wrong" and the response is "nothing", when in actual fact we can sense that it's just a lie. The response is taken at face value, fine, forgotten, move along..

Men are deemed to be totally devoid of sensing emotive situations and it has been something   completely ignored, only women can “feel” we are told. It was not that long ago that Hollywood propaganda actually admitted that men have feelings, surprise!. Emotional responses send out copious indirect recognisable signals that some can detect more than others and right there lies the potential for future drama queens to go into act 5, if queried and acted upon every time. Some women actually enjoy the drama of suffering, note the movies they enjoy watching..

But I digress, I wanted to show some examples of behaviour that the majority of guys have stated they would like to see and for their girl, to take note of. The other side of all this was that women appear to not even bother with finding out what their men like and dislike. It appears to be irrelevant..

This is an endless topic as it would eventually hit on personal preferences. My inkling was that both sexes enjoy the exact same things, they both immensely enjoy a great relationship with a member of the opposite sex but we have been arguing and discussing with the harpies and harridans who have accepted the feminist indoctrination and forgotten about all those other girls who are out there wishing for the same outcome..

It's going to be a long road back..








Concordia, Survival and Chauvinism..



The Costa Concordia event appears to have opened a few eyes to the truth of the day. It also would appear that there will never be an opportunity missed to try on a new level of male bashing when the opportunity arises.
The recent articles stating that men pushed women aside is really "feminist gold", it's akin to the "See, what they are like" type hysteria (we came across on that radical feminist site), the issue they prefer to raise rather than trying to explain the ingrained, automatic actions of human survival, instead they pinpoint the reactions and responses for denigration purposes..

In the past, it has been those very same male haters, those feminist journalists who have taken any opportunity to malign and denigrate males, such was the case when fantacising about all those "Millions of Hookers" that failed to appear at the Football World Cup in Europe or at the Super Bowl. Those professionally presented exaggerations whenever there is some demonstrated evidence, however minute. It is their bread and butter,  if there is any indication that "women are victims", on the bandwagon they ride..

The obvious response would be "You got what you wanted, your very own version of equawlitee", just live with it. No more preferrential treatment granted, as was taken for granted and assumed to be the case in the past, even now. Reminds me of that tune, "Don't know what you got till it's gone". The irony lingers, it so magically sums up that entire situation..

To demonstrate how that whole scenario panned out without any assistance from the MM, just standard responses from men and women around the world regarding that ocean liner keeling over, a few automatic, natural responses that reflects the general tone of all involved..

As Joanna T. commented on her listing in the right hand column, concerning the rise of friction between the sexes, " what went wrong", that is a good question and that may have to be looked at in a little more detail..

From here, these are the first ten comments..

confused Posted at 10:35 AM January 16, 2012 I guess chivalry is dead then.Comment 1 of 92

Jack Off of Nanny State Posted at 10:38 AM January 16, 2012 Men pushing women aside? discrimination against men again, according to the women's Lib, we are all equal.Comment 2 of 92

Grumbleduke Posted at 10:38 AM January 16, 2012 Men pushing away women? So? It just shows that you have the equality you want. No need for men to be chivalrous about things anymore, you can push just as hard as the guys remember?Comment 3 of 92

The Green Eye of Western Australia Posted at 10:47 AM January 16, 2012 Such is life. Disgusting ain't it.Comment 4 of 92

nk of Perth Posted at 10:49 AM January 16, 2012 What does everyone expect? to start playing the Violin with your mates. This ain't 1912 & it is no the moviesComment 5 of 92

someone of Roleystone Posted at 10:49 AM January 16, 2012 yes chivalry is dead. Individuals equality has made sure of this. Sad factComment 6 of 92

Bert of Mandurah Posted at 10:53 AM January 16, 2012 Eat and be eaten.....Stay alive in the process applies for all of us.PS.As none of yours been on the ship and experienced what it is really like to fight for your life at that moment. SHUT UPComment 7 of 92

ME FIRST! of Perth Posted at 10:53 AM January 16, 2012 Welcome to the 21st Century people - era of selfComment 8 of 92

joan of fremantle Posted at 10:54 AM January 16, 2012 You want equality,, sounds like you got it! I wonder if these were men in gay marriages?Comment 9 of 92

M&M's of OZ Posted at 10:54 AM January 16, 2012 Well what do you really seriously expect in such a situation, after all the phrase > its every man for himself > wasn't coined for no reason!Comment 10 of 92

NEW Guest Author Joanna T: MGTOW, Good or Bad for Women..



As I previously stated, this blog will undergo some changes. One of the changes that I am glad to announce will my new Guest Author - Joanna T. who is currently stationed in Switzerland, originally from England..

I look forward to Joanna's input and hope it will be a long and fruitful arrangement..

Joanna's task will be to present the other side of the argument, so to speak, in her own words and in her own redolent style. We have both arrived at a point where the ongoing, irrational negativity that has been promoted by feminists and thereby feminism, has indeed marred and denigrated the relationship between males and females. It really needs to be toned down and harnessed rather than fomented and encouraged. We need to take the next step. It is up to us to garner the troops in our efforts of ensuring that feminism and feminists are rejected and exposed for the clearly demonstrated pariahs they really are. This effort is part of that program..

Feminists hate the idea of any members of the Mens Movement joining together with members of opposite sex and demonstrating that reason and affability reigns in the MM also show that we are not the women haters they claim us to be. It's rubbing salt into already festering wounds..

Regardless how you personally view it, it cannot continue or it should not escalate as we are both on this planet to make our lives the best we possibly can. The other issue is that feminism and it's hate doctrine is primarily designed to drive a wedge between the sexes and I really do not want to be seen or be doing anything to promote any long term plan that feminism has in that direction. This is primarily going directly against feminisms aims and plans, this is the next step..

Joanna's latest article has struck a cord with me as I have been promoting the MGTOW lifestyle ever since I and a few other lads started the MGTOW movement. The founders of MGTOW, Ragnar, Johan, Myself and Zen, to name a few, got together to work on this when there was no other alternative lifestyle or options for men to pursue. It was either, get married and have kids or be scorned for being a free loader. Society at that time had that mindset and if there is one single issue that feminists can claim they did for men, it was to generate our determination to demand that men should have different options to determine their own lives rather than going down the same path, generations before had done in automatic and robotic fashion. Women were being forced to change so it only made sense that men should be given different options as well..

Hence MGTOW was born and hence we have this article.

The effects of MGTOW on the opposite sex has never been revealed or explained as I for one was very interested to see if it had any effect at all apart from introducing the marriage strike. Not that that was the idea of it all to begin with but it was a minor consideration on my part..

SO I welcome Joanna T on board and I can guarantee that she is one of us. I will ask Joanna to tell her own story some time in the future, her own impression and thoughts on feminists and feminism..


MGTOW - good or bad for women?

Joanna T.
There are three phrases that strike fear into the hearts of modern marriage-minded women.
'Marriage on the decline', 'MGTOW' (Men going their own way), 'Marriage strike'.

A woman's greatest fear is abandonment. Or worse, never to have been approached in the first place.
Feminism encourages women to hide this fear.
Some do it well.
But here-in lies the problem: a fear will always remain as a fear unless it is resolved.

A quirk of Nature results in the following observations:
A man does not need a woman. He is capable of being a solitary entity his whole life, and he won't care.
His work/passion/hobby is his primary focus.

A woman needs people around her. The most efficient way to increase the entourage who share her DNA is to team up with a man. So technically, a woman needs a man.

A man's greatest physical need is sexual fulfilment (according to Dr Kevin Lehman). A man's greatest social need is his freedom.
These two needs are in direct conflict with each other. Marriage (read: a woman) satisfies one at the expense of the other.
But in the old days, men often chose marriage and hoped for the best with the other need. Sometimes it worked out well.
Other times it did not.

Then feminism separated 'woman' from 'marriage'.

All of a sudden, a man could eat his cake and have it too. A win-win situation!
Being a logical being, he did.

A woman's natural reaction to MGTOW would be something like this:
"Oh no, don't go! Stay!"

Because MGTOW reduces the number of men in her 'parade'.
Because she is a good communicator and needs people around her to communicate with.
But it is a counterproductive reaction.

Because MGTOW is a natural part of manhood. It is a form of 'Initiation'.

In some cultures in the world, initiation practices are still encouraged. Men have their obligatory journey into the forest and women have their preparation rites for womanhood.
There are still remnants of the original deal in modern culture, but usually in a religious context, such as 'Bar Mitzvah' and 'Bat Mitzvah' and 'Confirmation'.

But in the real deal, a boy on the cusp of manhood  would be forcibly taken literally from his bed at night and dumped into dangerous terrain, usually by older men from the same village.

His mother and sisters would cry out, "Oh no, don't take him away" but to no avail.

Because the village elders knew that a man who had not been initiated was not a man.
He posed a risk to the whole village if he did not possess the skills of manhood. He might as well be one of the women, but without her function, either. So this man was useful to all concerned.

The women would protest, of course. But they knew thay had to let the boy go. Because, assuming he survived the rigors of initiation, he would come back a fully-fledged man, a useful member of society.
If he never came back, they would miss him. But he had not made the cut. It was a stigma for that family. They were better off in the long run without him.

There are many false imitations of initiation in today's society. Inner city gangs are a prime example.

Under feminism, many men lost their male 'elders'. Because he was taken away from them by a dominant matriarch. There was no-one to raid their homes in the middle of the night and yank them from their beds into the terrifying unknown, so necessary for the development of their sense of masculine self.

MGTOW might be one of the natural retorts to this male crisis: the lack of initiation.

The motivation for MGTOW in this present clime is certainly not for the purposes of benefiting women.

But in a roundabout way, it could be the best thing a man can do.
It could be the best demonstration of 'inner Game'.

Let the initiation begin.

The heroes will return to the village, with a lot to offer the village.
The women and children and of course the elders will be there to welcome them back to the fold.

The others will not come back.

Women only want heroes on their parade.